Walk Together Fiercely

Is It Your Ego or Your Intuition Speaking and How to tell the Difference

March 26, 2024 Michelle Morrison and Dr. Tara Drummond ND
Walk Together Fiercely
Is It Your Ego or Your Intuition Speaking and How to tell the Difference
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Have you ever felt torn between the confident voice of your ego and the gentle whisper of your intuition? Join your hosts, Michelle Morrison and Dr. Tara Drummond, as we share our personal tales and insights on navigating this complex dance. Our conversations, seasoned with laughter and authenticity, peel back the layers of our spiritual and emotional journeys, revealing the significance of embracing every part of ourselves, shadows included.

We're taking you through the practicalities of harnessing your inner instincts for success. From the power of gut feelings to the enchantment of synchronicities and the wisdom of dreams, we invite you to uncover the inherent guidance waiting within you. Through stories of toxic relationships and lessons in self-worth, we delve into the transformative act of listening to our bodies and honoring our personal truths. And we don't stop at just talking; we offer strategies for creating the stillness in your life that allows your intuition to truly shine through.

As we wrap up, we connect the dots between gut health and happiness, diving into the fascinating gut-brain connection and its influence on intuition. With my hand on my heart chakra, I encourage you to do the same, to trust your instincts, and to remain open to life's magical moments of serendipity. For those yearning for more, our community awaits with open arms to support you on this journey of self-discovery.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Walk Together Fiercely. We are just so glad to have you here. We invite and we also thank you for being a part of our community. Thank you for choosing to spend some of your precious time with us. We know how valuable it is. I am Michelle Morrison. I am a medium and an intuitive and I support people to make beautiful spiritual connections with loved ones on the other side, with angels and spirit guides, and I love helping people tune into their own amazing intuition.

Speaker 2:

I am Dr Tara Drummond and I am a naturopathic doctor and I am passionate about empowering people in all aspects of health and well-being. Our intention is to create community and connection. We do that with open hearts, minds and a whole lot of love and laughter. The more we know ourselves, the deeper connection we can have within, which allows us to deepen connections around us.

Speaker 1:

We feel so passionately about this. You matter, that you are so important and that you belong, and we are creating and connecting to the hearts and wisdom of our bodies, mind and spirits, nurturing and growing compassion, empathy and community. We know that we are so much better together, and so let's walk together fiercely through this beautiful, sometimes really challenging life as light warriors of love. Together, with open minds and hearts, we can create a community where we celebrate, play and thrive. Thank you for being here. Good morning, we are back. We are sitting here drinking our tea and I'm still drinking my breakfast smoothie and we are having a Monday morning.

Speaker 2:

I said this is like the Monday of all Mondays, it feels heavy.

Speaker 1:

It's a Monday morning feel. Yeah, I know we are going to talk about ego or intuition today. What do you think that our ego and intuition is telling us today? What's your ego saying and what's your intuition saying? Is there a difference?

Speaker 2:

Today it's too muddled to discern, so you're going to help us with that. I think today it was like just go back to bed, just stay in bed, keep the kids home from school and everyone keeps sleeping.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, do you ever have those days where it's like you start a day and you just would rather just pull the covers over and just say, no, not today, not adulting today. Yeah, that's today for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's kind of today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. So, at any rate, if you have ever felt that in your life, or perhaps you're feeling that today, we are right there with you. We are feeling that also. But we really want to have this conversation because this is one that we have quite often is how do you tell the difference between what your ego has to say about stuff and what your intuition is actually telling you? So this is kind of like tuning into those instincts and then discerning, I guess, between what they're telling you, and so it is really important to know the difference and to be able to tell when your ego is like the one in charge and it's running you over rampant with all kinds of messages, and when your intuition is speaking to you. I think it's really important to discern the difference.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I think that's a topic too, because the word coming to me is spiritual bypassing. So I think that so much we can think is our intuition and our spiritual side, and sometimes the ego has a tricky little voice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it can disguise itself as this holier than thou voice Absolutely, you're going to help us sift through these voices today. Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, it's so true and you know, I mean on that tangent, I mean you can see a lot, sometimes like I can't remember what video I was watching it. This just happened last week and I was just like, oh Lord, that person is really like I was watching somebody speak. They were staying on a spiritual soapbox and I was watching them speak and I'm like that is pure ego coming through and you could just see that. And it was just like holy Kamoli. See, like there's even an instinct within each of us with things that resonate and things that you're just like. Please, please, please stop.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I love that you're bringing that up because that is going to be the superpowers trusting our instincts, because so often I can get that feeling like here's the spiritual teacher they're teaching these things and I go, oh, kind of triggers an ego in me, going like, well, you don't know your stuff or your. But sometimes that feeling is that you're actually picking up intuitively that there's a it's not resonating with you what they're doing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, on some level, or like there or I. My personal thing that I don't care for is when somebody comes across as oh well, you sweet little people down there, you don't know what you're talking about, right?

Speaker 1:

You have so much to learn. And you know I've done, I've done a lot of ayahuasca. So clearly, clearly, I'm doing better at this than you. I can't stand that shit Like that is just not my deal. Same, you know, like I am, I am a dumpster fire as much of the time as anybody else, and so there's no part of me that ever feels like listen, I got this sorted. I mean, I know that I'm very intuitive, that's very true, but I also know that I walked through my shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, happy Monday, it's just cracks me up for so many reasons, michelle Cause, if, if, at any chance, I'm going like I got this figured out, look at me, go, I'm thriving. Yeah, there's a piece of me going. Watch out, bitch. That shit doesn't last. Because, because isn't that the truth? And I think that that is what I love about our friendship and our podcast is we know that we are all.

Speaker 1:

all of it, yes we are all of it.

Speaker 2:

So I think that we wear our shadow bits and our ego bits on our sleeve almost like yeah no, I couldn't put it on.

Speaker 1:

If I tried to like, I just I can't. There's no part of me that can be fake. Even if I tried to like, you're going to get what you get.

Speaker 2:

I love it because it is that we're both like we can feel, so spiritual and connected, and like we're in the flow and that's amazing and human, and feel pain and sadness and worry and fear, and I think that our podcast is so geared towards. We're all in this like dumpster fire of a mess, and how do we walk together fiercely, like what tools do we have? So today, the tool that we are offering is Michelle going to help us sift through.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we're both going to sift through this because you know this really well, but like you know, like, so you. So I think that what is beautiful and what we are actually hard wired for, if we can, if we can, we're giggle, we're going to giggle our asses off through this. But what we are hard wired for is these beautiful inner instincts and we're going to we can touch really quickly on the outer instincts again. We've talked about that lots and then those inner instincts and how things will come about in your life that say to you oh my gosh, pay attention to those inner instincts. That is saying something to you, even if you're not exactly sure what it is or how to to. Maybe you don't have all the answers yet or you're not sure what the next step is that at least you're tuning in and you're paying attention to that and you're listening to that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's a huge first step, like just just being able to tune in, to listen to your body.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, is a huge step, yeah, and so we have been sharing conversation about this morning about how we are listening to even if we're not sure of the next step that we're listening to what our body is saying and it's like, okay, we need to, we're going to pay attention to and this is how this is going to come in. We're going to start paying attention to the synchronicities that happen, the gut feelings, the dreams, and so that's what we're going to talk and we're going to do a quick dive through all of that today. I love it, yeah, it's such a good conversation, and I love how Lake Spirit will say that you have been hardwired for success, and so if you take one thing away from this podcast today, I hope it is that that you have within you the hardwired aspects that will create success for you, and it's just a matter of tuning into them. And then, more importantly than tuning in, allowing it, lake, do you listen? Do you, do you honor what your body is telling you? Do you honor those instincts or do you ignore them?

Speaker 1:

I mean, you know, honestly, I have absolutely honored them and I have absolutely ignored them.

Speaker 1:

And so we were just we you and I were just sharing a conversation about, like you know, learning through a toxic relationship that we have each experienced the school of hard knocks, like you know, really wanting this relationship to work for one reason or another and really, you know, trying everything that you possibly can do to make a really this particular relationship work and trying to be all that this person. You know the expected rise to their expectations and then coming to a place of that's never going to work, like that person is never going to like that there's nothing I'm going to be able to do to make that person happy and that relationship is just got to come to an end, like it's got to come to a close. And so have I done both? Yes, absolutely. I have done the school of hard knocks and I have done the listening and the tuning in, and both take you to the same conclusion Ultimately, one you can do faster than another. So we're going to pay attention to that today.

Speaker 2:

Isn't that the truth about earth school, the way it's like okay, there's two paths. You want to do it the easy way or the hard way? Yeah, my ego's like the hard way the hard way, let's do it.

Speaker 1:

I know the ego will always say that and the soul will be like no, no, the easy way, the easy way.

Speaker 2:

Let's do it the easy way, tara and I'm like but what if I'm? Wrong yeah.

Speaker 1:

What if there's a chance?

Speaker 2:

that this person will like me. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

While your body's screaming like no, get out.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we're going to listen to this body, and so I always get this question from you know, tons of clients. You know how do I tell the difference between my intuition and my ego, and so let's just talk about that a little bit, because it's going to be pretty easy for us to talk about ego today. And so the ego, I don't my personal belief and this is not necessarily right, it is just my personal belief Because we were gifted with one, because we were gifted with this human body. It is my personal belief that the ego doesn't need to die. And so you will see some people who feel differently, like death of the ego is the only way to go, and I'm not saying that's right or wrong. My personal belief is make friends, you know, come to a place of peace with all of it, and that the ego actually, I believe, is important for certain reasons, and here's why I believe that the ego is really here to keep you safe. And a lot of reasons like, hey, there's a tiger chasing you. You know, run, girl. Like, pick your ass up and get out of there, let's run.

Speaker 1:

Um, the ego will also get you up out of bed in the morning, like this morning, you know, like I was late. I woke up, um uh, this morning, naturally at seven 30, I fell back to sleep. It was so amazing, because usually I'm a very early riser. Anyway, fell back to sleep, my wake up at seven 30 and I'm like, oh, like glorious, like amazing. Okay, get your ass out of bed. Tara is coming over. You got to get to work, get in your office, okay. And the ego will do that. Now, if I listen to my spirit which is also equally lovely I would still be lounging in bed, maybe reading my book or what have you, but I also wouldn't probably be as productive, and so in that way, I can make friends with my ego. Does that make sense, tara? Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so the ego, um, uh, doesn't love um you to feel all of your feelings and things like that. The ego loves to be um triggered, like the ego absolutely loves to, like you know, the. The ego loves the drama, uh, the ego loves like the breaking news, the ego loves the chaos, like that's, it's, it's kind of like, um, if you think about like a yeast infection or something like that, or I know, I know that's such a strange thing to say, but like I, like you know, it just loves to thrive on the bad bacteria. Right, that's one way to look at it.

Speaker 2:

Like it, just it's it does have that aspect. It, like, feeds on fear. It feeds on the fear, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so the soul is the voice of your intuition and it's always going to be more common, subtle, and it's never going to like it's not typically unless there was, like you know, imminent something or other. Immediately it's not typically going to like be waving the checkered flags, um, and you know, booming at you, getting your attention. It's going to more lovingly and subtly want to grab your attention and, um, speak to you in ways that are just a lot more loving and gentle. So it's never going to feel like the, the, the breaking news, like it's always going to feel like, hmm, you know, I'm inspired to do this, or I should call that friend, or you know it's gonna feel that yeah, and I think that this is a great thing.

Speaker 2:

To highlight is how the intuition shows up subtly and often quieter than the ego, mm-hmm. So if we are in this full on ego, we're listening to the ticker tape, we're in fear and we never in our day slow down or get silent enough.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes there's no space to hear our intuition.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Because the ego can be so loud.

Speaker 1:

Well, and that's the point, we don't want the ego to take over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's exactly right. We want to be able to have a lovely friendship and balance between them both and to have you know this and to have the more gentle soul, a really big part of your day and a really big part of what you are listening and tuning into so you can tell immediately where you are in one place or the other. Mm-hmm, immediately. So are you just like, oh my God, we're going to hell in a hand basket, like here we go Like the. You know the balloons caught fire and it's you know it's crashing and plummeting to earth? You're an ego. If you are feeling any of those kinds of things, your ego has fully now taken over. The bad bacteria is in overgrowth mode and you need some probiotics to like balance that back out and get the the good gut bacteria flowing again. Truly, it's true.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my metaphors are making Tara laugh, Anyway, Because I'm going to see someone in full blown ego in the world and go look at that yeast infection.

Speaker 1:

I know that's going to be fucking uncomfortable.

Speaker 2:

So fucking itchy? Oh no, but the truth is it is like if we are in ego all the time. It is so uncomfortable. So for me I function like that often, Like I would not be a doctor if I, my ego, was not chirping at me to get work and get doing. It, did it at a striped, striped striped striped.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there's no light. Still being fucking bad, right, yes, like the ego is, has gotten me to achieve what I've achieved, yeah, and I need to be mindful in my days to allow space to hear spirit, because with two young kids and a puppy and a house and it, I know that I'm in ego. When my body gets tight and when I get hurried, like you can feel the physiology of that and the emotions that also follow that narrative of you're not doing enough. There's more to do. The did it at this. You can feel the fear in your body and the tension and then you've got to make that pause, yeah, and come back to come back because the ego.

Speaker 2:

it's like a well worn track. Well right, it's the track we're used to listening to. Yeah, so if you think of like skiing and you have this, you do this exact same path every single time. It gets so comfortable and worn in.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And then you make one veer, yeah, you get triggered and boom, you're on autopilot, you're right back into this old track. So I think it is this unlearning and unprogramming and then forming these new connections that it's like. Let's picture the hill with like a big fresh blanket of snow. Mm hmm. And that's spirit. You get to play. You get to follow your intuition. And it's not those well worn ego tracks that just slurpy down the same path, those same thought programs, right, I think that's actually like.

Speaker 1:

I mean, the purpose of our life, right, is to is to get outside of the tracks to, you know, make our own tracks. I think that's absolutely it. And can we love ourselves enough to do that? Can we listen to our soul? Can we, you know, tune into our true, authentic spirit? Um, and can we maybe hear the ego and go okay, thanks, um, thanks for that.

Speaker 2:

Sit back down, yeah, cause those tracks can feel so familiar to like and they can, almost, like the ego, will believe you're safe there. Right, we know these tracks. Yeah, we're good, we can run this program, but then all of a sudden you're looping and I'm not good enough. I haven't done enough. I'm and then you're like oh, these tracks aren't comfortable though.

Speaker 1:

We want to do it a different way. Right, and whenever you stretch your side outside out yourself, outside of your tracks, there's always that feeling of uncomfortable.

Speaker 2:

And then the ego gets louder because it's going. You're in a scary place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're going to track. Yeah, for sure, this is going to yeah, this is going to fail. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It gets louder and bigger.

Speaker 2:

So, I, I've made friends with my ego and I would say, especially in the last couple of months, like I was joking to you a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks ago, like I'm bringing that bitch back, like we have spent so much time shunning that part of ourself, or there is that belief that the ego needs to die, but like we were born here with it. Why would we like chop off a leg or chop off an arm all willy-nilly? Like we came with all that we need and I think it's working with that tool.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, I love how you. I love this because one of the things that you shared was, like, you know that you know, one of the places that we could go is completely altruistic, right, yeah, and that's where we are completely sacrificing or murdering ourselves for you know, something else or somebody else possibly. You know thinking that that's the way to do it, and you're like no, what do? What do I actually want? Yeah, what do I actually need?

Speaker 2:

And how many people out there that identify as like sensitive or empathic, and you can have such a huge caring heart and you go, oh, I can see how afraid these other people are, or I can see that, and then we slather it in compassion and lots of compassion. We're so good at that, right, and I think that that can be such a feeding frenzy for people that receive that energy and then, at the end of the day, it's like we need to take care of ourselves. So I think that if we're going no, no, no, ego, like let's all be in love, let's all be in love and light and all these beautiful things, which is great, if we don't have boundaries, then we're going to be victim to all those energies out there and we're going to be just waffling in the wind.

Speaker 2:

And I think that it's so interesting because I think of this this way, where we can be so kind, so loving, so generous, and there's also like a tactic for safety in that, because then I can be liked, I can be and this people pleasing, you know this energy, right, yeah, and where I'm saying I've invited my ego really back into play in this last few months, even to be able to stand up and say this isn't okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like the ego adds a lot of fun and, I think, a lot of humor to my life too, like, yeah, I'm just embracing all parts of me in that way.

Speaker 1:

Like even that chirpy little voice.

Speaker 2:

That's like I know better than that. That's a stupid idea. Like I can hear my kids sing stuff like this and it's like that's a part of us and it's like yes and shh, yeah, right. So whatever she's back, she's got both parts of her and I'm feeling spicier and hopefully we're on the right track. I love it. We'll see.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's tune into the, into the ways that your body is going to speak to you intuitively, just so that, if there are things that you need to be tuning in, well, there's always things. Let's clarify, re-clarify that there's always things intuitively and ways that your body, your soul, your spirit, the universe, is speaking to you intuitively, and these are some of the ways that you can tell the difference. So the ego, of course, is going to be very noisy, very upfront and always telling you the things that could go wrong, like the. That's always what the ego is going to do.

Speaker 2:

These are the 10 ways this could go sideways on you, cause I feel like there's a repetitiveness to the ego. It keeps looping, whether it's looping in different ways, like oh, this or that, or worry about this, but I don't find that my intuition shows up as repetitive as my ego would.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not, as it's not as loopy and it's certainly not negative. That's that's one of the big things, and so let's talk about this. This is my number one way that I know that your soul is speaking to you and I call it whispers of the soul, actually, and so how we experience this can be very different than an egoic thought, but there's like a knowing, a feeling deep within to do something or to be drawn to something or to be curious about something. There's a lot of ways this could happen. Like you could possibly overhear a conversation, because, I mean, we're going to talk about synchronicities next but, like often, it's like it can be in the receipt of being in the right place at the right time, you know hearing exactly what you need to hear, but like, constantly, you know it might be that you get this a couple of different ways, but it's like, hey, learn more about that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, listen to that, what was that? Again, that's really interesting. You know, maybe look that up when you get home, or you got to check that place out, or that kind of thing. It's just like that, that little hit of oh, that's what a whisper of the soul is, and so it's absolutely telling you something about, whatever it is that you just heard or read about, or saw or felt was something that you just need to spend a little bit more time on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, does that make sense?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so, like I can think of lots of things in life where this has happened, and so right now I'll just share really quickly One of the things that came up even this past weekend, and we were hanging with our kids and talking about woodwork of all things, and one of the things that has just always I've always been drawn to is these wood and resin tables. So you sent me a picture of a charcuterie board, I think, on Friday morning or Thursday night whichever it was that you were going to get and it just twigs something in me and I was just like, oh my God, like that is such a beautiful piece of art, like, oh my gosh, like how did they do that? I love that. I want to learn more about that. And then it came back to these beautiful wooden resin tables where they put you know, have you seen this? Where they put gorgeous like it might be gorgeous stones or rocks or pieces, elements of nature, and then pour resin over it, and it's between these two gorgeous pieces of wood. Oh my God, something about it just lights me up. I just want to know more about it. I just need to learn more about it.

Speaker 1:

There's something inside of me that it speaks to and I know this is a silly example, there can be a lot of really great examples Like, maybe it was how you heard about naturopathic medicine. Like something inside of you went oh what is this? I've never been to a naturopathic doctor. What is that about? Like, it can be so many things in life that we just pay attention to. It could be even a recipe, or it could lead you to a friendship or a connection in some way. There's just so many ways that it can work in life.

Speaker 1:

What catches your attention? How does it speak to you? How does it make you feel? Does it create a certain amount of excitement within you? What is it telling you? What is it knowing Be like a five year old. Why, why, why, why, why. Like asking the questions, what's going on? What does this mean? How do I feel? Just constantly paying attention to that? Yeah, so how did that speak to you, tara? Like, for, for an example, is it okay if I ask you about naturopathic medicine? Like, how did it speak to you when you knew that that was a place you wanted to learn more about?

Speaker 2:

That was. I was just shuttled in there by the universe. It was very intuitive. I uh, I was lifeguarding and a colleague said to me if I had an undergrad I would go into naturopathic medicine. And here I was sitting with an undergrad in my back pocket. I had a degree in animal biology and I thought I wanted to go into environmental sciences, really liked that, wasn't too sure, didn't know what I wanted. I was in an in-between year and she said that and there was just something in me. What is naturopathic medicine?

Speaker 1:

And you just wanted to learn more about it.

Speaker 2:

Never had heard of it, right, and so I go home and Google it and I read the six principles of naturopathic medicine and I there was a resignation. It was this is medicine.

Speaker 2:

This is medicine and within two weeks I had done my application and I went down for an interview and they phoned me like days later and I was accepting it at a school, right away, like it. Just it was like I was just ushered in, I just needed to do the next human steps to do it. And then it was a class of 36 and they said we aren't going to let people know until May. This is in February. But they actually let me know right away. So there was just that resignation went both ways, that I got told that I got in right away.

Speaker 2:

And then I started that next September and one of the elders teaching us one of our introduction courses said you don't choose naturopathic medicine, it chooses you, and it was. You really felt that way. That was totally the experience for me, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's amazing. And here we are. That hits on so many things intuitively, like when you're on the right path, like how easily things can come together. That's really really cool.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 1:

I love also that you saying like it takes human steps. Don't ever forget that it always takes human steps. So intuition doesn't mean a magic wand drops in your lap and you do nothing and it just shows up for you. You have to take human steps to do that, but that's really cool.

Speaker 2:

It was very cool and there was a lot of fear, like I went and did this big interview where you went into all these different rooms, and like there was a lot of the humanness to follow that path, to follow that calling. Because it was terrifying to do the application, to go to all this stuff and then a ton of work to do the actual program, obviously. So my ego is what got my human body through what I was called to do Right.

Speaker 1:

I love that. It's such a great example, and so I think it's so important to just pay attention to those whispers of the soul and what your intuition is saying. Hey, just stop and check that out. Google that, Look that one up. You wanna learn more about that. I think that's really awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, really awesome. Let this lead so gently and easily into synchronicities, and synchronicities are a really beautiful. I see them as a tangible form of divine guidance, like I really think it's a great way for us to receive guidance. And so synchronicities are seen like they just it just something just seems to happen almost synchronicly.

Speaker 2:

Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1:

Synchronicly. Like hearing the right thing at the right time, being in the right place at the right time. Like overhearing a conversation, seeing repeated numbers, colors, words, images all the time, meeting the right person at the right time and just really paying attention and open, aware and receptive, even mindful and trusting, when these things are happening. Oh, have you ever like gone somewhere and met somebody and then you have this incredible conversation? You're like, oh my God, like this was so meant to be, Like I was so meant to meet you. This is really cool. Like those are synchronicities, Like this is the way the world does its magical Rubik's Cube work and make things line up for you just as they need to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, this is my favorite way to play with intuition. I'm always seeing numbers and signs and just the synchronicities that you know it to be, that you're on track. So even if you go for a walk and you take a left instead of a right and you bump into a friend that you haven't seen it like, those kind of things just make me feel so great. And then the numbers that you see throughout the day I'm like is there? Just keep goings to me, like I just see them as like, even if it's a hard day, like you wake up you don't wanna get out of bed. You look over and it's whatever 7-11 on the clock and you're like okay, maybe that's something that means something to me, and it's like maybe it's hard, but keep going it's always the keep going for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the numbers for me are you're on the right track. Yeah you're on the right track, you're doing the right thing, like keep, yeah, exactly, keep going, keep going, yeah you betcha, and sometimes I feel like the universe gives me a pat on the head and goes it's okay, I'll hear that once in a while, cause I'm like, well what?

Speaker 2:

does that sign mean? And then I'll just, I'll take a pause and it's, it's okay. I'm like, oh, okay, it's okay.

Speaker 1:

I love that. Ask what it means to you is a great way to do this. Like, okay, when I see that, what does it mean to me? Oh, it's okay, yeah, yeah, there's. I think it's a perfect way to work with the energy. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love it too. Yeah, have you ever been at a time in your life where you're craving peace and quiet?

Speaker 2:

Every day.

Speaker 1:

When we crave peace and quiet, this is actually a sign from our soul, from our spirit. That you have like mail in your inbox is a good way to think about it. And what is really challenging through our life is that we're busy, we're on the go, we have lots happening. It's a busy world and we don't necessarily hear or feel our intuition when we're juggling 10 balls at the same time the kids are running through the house, you know, playing chase and playing with the dogs, and, yeah, my dog's got the zoomies last night, something fierce. Anyway, like all of those kinds of things, it's not where you're gonna hear your intuition, or feel it, for that matter. And so when you crave peace and quiet, that is a sign you can think of that. You know that old rom-com. You've got mail where it's like the that smell in your inbox and you need to. You do need to slow down, listen.

Speaker 1:

There's a reason why your soul will help you to crave that peace and quiet so that you can get quiet.

Speaker 1:

And one of the most beautiful gifts that you can give yourself in that time is to not, you know, fill it with like a device or something like that that you can actually give yourself a little bit of peace and quiet.

Speaker 1:

So for me, one of my personal choices with this is I will go for a walk, and I did this actually yesterday between storms. I was like just really craving that and it's like just get out for a walk, what is good for your body, what do you need? And then just be curious and just be with yourself, like you know, what do you? What do you just know, without having to ask what are the feelings that you need to acknowledge within you? What's sitting in your body, how is it sitting? How does it feel? Where do you feel it? You know just really being curious about all of those things. What do you need? What haven't you been paying attention to? What? Where do you need to focus some, some TLC within yourself? That kind of thing that gets you to always to the answers of what you need to pay attention to.

Speaker 2:

Nice. So when you listen to that yearning for quiet and you take yourself out for a walk, do you find. Then you're more connected and get more downloads during those times.

Speaker 1:

Yes, absolutely yeah, and so I'll come back feeling more grounded, more centered. Well, the walking for me is an immediate grounder too, and I, for me personally, like if I have been super busy and like I'm running around and you know, like maybe I'm doing laundry and I'm working, and I'm cooking and I'm cleaning, and you know all the things that we do I can actually get what I believe is like slightly ungrounded, because you just are I don't know how to describe it but do you know that feeling of like you feel a little bit flighty almost because you're just busy.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it's like juggling balls in your head.

Speaker 1:

Juggling balls, yeah exactly, and so when I walk, that will ground me immediately. If I sit and meditate, it will do the same, but if my household is like busy and noisy, I would just prefer a walk in nature, because, then, because it's not there, nothing's distracting me.

Speaker 1:

I don't hear the. You know the timer go on the washing machine in time to change the. You know, I don't hear it, like it's just not a part of my experience when I'm walking, and so it will just bring me right back down to earth and I can re-center, re-ground and then move forward. With what is it that I need? Yeah, yeah, nice, yeah, so really beautiful way to take care of yourself, and I think that it's one of the things, actually, I believe that is very counterintuitive about our world and if you think about humans in their more like, in a more primitive kind of a form, like in our true authentic state, it was never meant to be this busy.

Speaker 2:

Noisy, noisy. Never meant to be this crazy yeah.

Speaker 1:

No, it was never meant to be this noisy. So much stimulation, all the time right, and I don't believe that we were ever created for that amount of stimulation, and so I think that we really do need to bring ourselves back down, and for me personally, movement just really helps. Movement always helps. I don't know why.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, moves the energy through the body. For me, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's a good way to look at it. It does move the energy through the body. Yeah, so you find what works for you. It doesn't have to be. Maybe you do. Maybe a person does really well. Like just laying in shavasana on a yoga mat or doing some mindful breathing is great. Maybe it is meditation, Maybe it is staying barefoot on the grass in the backyard, Like. Maybe it's any of those things. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Different tools for different people? Yeah, and different times, all the things you're saying. I'm like, yeah, those are all tools and I use them at different times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I guess it depends what you choose at the time.

Speaker 2:

My SOS is just like I just lay flat on my back on the ground. Sometimes it's in my kitchen, sometimes it's in my living room and I just take a pause, like because you can feel that buildup of the energy and the voices and the.

Speaker 2:

You're juggling these balls and you're doing all these human things that are required right Running a household and da-da-da-da, and then I'm like stop, feel your body lay down, and I love movement for that, because then it will all this anxiety and this tension that we can build up in our nervous system. Like you say, we're not wired to be having this much stimuli and we feel that all in our nervous system. So what do we do to ground that nervous system, to feel safe again and to feel calm, because that's when the intuition's going to whisper at us. Right, if our nervous system is going, there's a tiger, there's a tiger and it's gonna eat you if you do not get those dishes done and that laundry turned over, and da-da-da-da-da, like, if our nervous systems jazzed like that, we're not in that receptive state because we're in fight or flight right.

Speaker 2:

So if we can bring ourselves back down and just lay on the earth, lay on the ground, take a big breath, go for a walk. Whatever our tools are and we did an episode on tools, it's a few weeks back here, I think grab whatever tools work for you so that you can tune your radio station, like you say, to the other voice and to have the have that quiet. You just need to make that space for those your mail to come through. Yeah, exactly. And.

Speaker 1:

I think that if you've been busy for like, say you've been you know, especially like you know those listening with young children, so you know where you are in your life. In particular, I think it's exceptionally challenging Like in those places because your needs often don't come first. I mean they don't have an opportunity to like if you have a child with a need, or maybe you're nursing a sick child who's got a virus or something like that. Like your needs just don't come first, Like that's just the name of the game, Like that's just how it's going to work and so they can, you can get on a kind of a pathway of ignoring them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely, and I think that's where it's so important to like, have community and like and these. As a mother like I, would choose to put my children first.

Speaker 1:

And that's not, and that's not meant in a martyr way.

Speaker 2:

It's not meant in a self-sacrificing Like there's just. I think there's a biological thing there that mums of young kids would do anything to that.

Speaker 2:

That's the phase of life you're in is you are protecting this tiny human and looking out for them and all of these things. So by no means would I my heart want me to be first, although if I'm not well, no one's well like. We do need to prioritize taking care of ourselves. So for any of those mums with the young kids listening, like we don't want to slip into that martyr of I do everything for everyone else I'm living on toast crust after everybody's like, I've been there and I do that and I get that and we need to prioritize our wellness and our nervous system, because that impacts our babes.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like if I'm buzzing around like a crazy, like that impacts my family, it impacts the energy in my home and my kids. So that is where we do not I'm not necessarily saying put ourselves first, but kind of do in those moments where you need to get grounded again. Yeah, you can do it quick.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my gosh, I do it a bazillion times a day. Yes, exactly. But the point is is well, a couple of points. I'm just stopping myself here as I'm thinking that through, about what is going to come out of my mouth. A couple of points. I don't think that we're ever meant to juggle that many balls.

Speaker 2:

First of all, oh, my gosh, that makes my body like feel like crying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right, yeah, because I just think it's just like it's insanity to think that that's remotely okay. But yet here we are and so, okay, we're in the space, this is our lives and this is how we're rolling, and so we've got to honestly put things in our way that quiet us down, that simmer us down, that takes so much stimulation. They remove the stimulation and come back into yourself so that you can listen. Another place for me that I absolutely love and I don't know that I did this as much when my children were young as I do now but Baths. The Bath is absolutely a place.

Speaker 1:

I know you are good with this one, tara, and that you can pop yourself in a bath for 20 and chill. Like this is such a beautiful thing to do and I don't want to give the impression that it needs to last, like you need to be still for hours and hours. That might not work in your day. I mean, it might work on occasion Great if it does but like minutes we're talking, like even minutes of quiet can really be enough to change the momentum of something and get you listening to an intuitive message or hit in your body.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. It's that present, it's that pulling you right in. That's what the Bath gives me is that it pulls me into the present and into the physical and, honestly, we can do this with a hand wash.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's just being present.

Speaker 2:

It's feel the water, feel the temperature, take a big breath and it's just. It's a moment of re-centering, right, lovely Anyways, I'm not nailing this, it's just the tools that I'm using.

Speaker 1:

No, no, exactly. And so if you've been craving peace and quiet, just pay attention to that. There's a deeper reason and your intuition might need a chance to speak to you. You might need to take a few minutes to tune in your body. Your intuition, your soul, your spirit is speaking to you and wants you to hear, and so they're giving you that. That crave of you need to. You just need, like you know. Have you ever seen those memes or posts of I just want to live in the, you know, in a forest and I don't want people to bother me and I just they like it's pictures of like a little fairy house or whatever I'm like? Oh, that person has gotten intuitive message that they need to hear. Yeah, and so that's me, michelle.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, take me to the forest, I'll live with the fairies, that's right. There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1:

I really think that dreams are important to pay attention to and I really think a couple of things. Like, I would love to have a speak to a dream expert on our podcast sometime, because I think dreams are just so wicked cool. I'm no expert by any means. I have. I mean, I've studied lots of dream books and I, you know, I understand a lot of the symbolism, but I also think that it's personal to each and every one of us and the reason I think that is because our intuitive language between each of us is just slightly different and your intuitive language will speak to you in a way that that it knows, that you will understand, and mine will do the same to me. And so, for example, in a workshop, I'll say to people and let's pose this question to you listening now, if I say to you, what does Apple mean to you? Well, to each and every one of you it might mean something different. What does Apple mean to you, tara?

Speaker 2:

Hmm, I think an apple a day keeps the doctor away.

Speaker 1:

So to me it's medicine, To you it's medicine, or I can picture it on a teacher's desk.

Speaker 1:

For me it means teacher, and so, which is right, both. It just is a matter of what does it mean to you, is the important question to ask. And so I think that when you get messages in your dreams, or a symbol or a picture or something like that, asking what it means to you is really valid and incredibly important. And so the dreams are a way for your subconscious to work shit out also right, and so you may have had an experience in your day and your subconscious will have a way of kind of filtering that through. So there's that element to dreams where it can be, you know, healing in terms of just helping you to work through things that you're working through or bring your attention to something you want to know. And they're also a way to tap into your intuition. And your dreams can be very telling, helping you to know things, sharing like an inner sense of knowing, and they can absolutely bring valuable insights forward. And so quite often, if it is something that's going to be a valuable insight, it will be repetitive. You'll have like a. It might vary to some degree or another, but you need to pay attention if it's a repetitive dream and it typically is something that's going to help you. It's going to help, like, even if it doesn't feel really great. Yeah, so I can share a very personal story of a dream that was incredibly helpful for me and it wasn't like. I'm not going to say like I'm like yay, I had this incredible dream. Oh my God. No, it wasn't one of those. It was absolutely a dream that you don't necessarily want to have. But the dream was that I am in a store and I can't for the life we find the bathroom and I'm asking everybody and no one knows where the bathroom is. And I'm like, oh my God, like I got to go pee right now. Like, where is the bathroom? Can't find a bathroom, and I would have this dream repeatedly, over and over and over.

Speaker 1:

And the when I studied the message and I looked at, okay, what is resonating with me? It's like you've got some feelings inside of you and you don't feel like you have a safe place to unload them, and so, as soon as I like it had to resonate with me too, and so it, and so it did on a level, even though it wasn't like, oh, because, of course, what do we want to have dreams of that? You know that, you know you go on your dream vacation or that you know something amazing happens to you in your life or you have a beautiful connection with somebody that you've missed. You know maybe a loved one in heaven or something like that, and it's like you know, something really prophetic and gorgeous comes through in your dream. That's what we want, but it isn't always that way.

Speaker 1:

But once I heard that message and got it first of all, the dream ended. I didn't have it again because I did find a safe place to unload. I had to acknowledge some feelings that I had within me that, you know, maybe I didn't want to acknowledge or express, but that I actually needed to. And so once I did that and I put two and two together, that dream ended and something was inside of me was healed, so it was really good.

Speaker 2:

Does that make sense yeah, yeah, yeah, neat yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so I really want to encourage you to pay attention to repetitive dreams and sometimes, like, symbolic guidance, can come through in dreams as well, and so, like, did you see an animal in your dream? Well, what was it? You know, what does that animal represent to you? What does that feel like to you? And so, more recently, I had, I've had several dreams of a tiger walking beside me, a gorgeous, humongous female tiger, the stripes, the whole thing like really, really lovely, and she's protective, like she's a little bit, like she'll, like growl at you, like she'll you know, like she'll you know, and, and so I've had that. So what does that mean to me? Well, you know, that's that little bit of protection walking with me. That little bit Maybe you need to. You know, you need that little bit around you right now for one reason or another. It doesn't make me feel scared, it actually makes me feel safe but, I want to read more about, like you know, a tiger.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's just flexing her power there. Yeah, and interesting too, because we are in tiger month right now with Sam and we talked to Sam Clovey. That part was tiger month. Yeah, we're in tiger month right now. Right, thank you for that reminder. And we've got. We both had tiger in our charts for this year when she got this Interesting. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like that it's a big girl tiger.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like the approach that dreams can be intuitive and that they can be powerful forms of self-discovery and personal growth, and that it's really important to approach your dreams with an open mind. And if you are listening to this and you're a person who doesn't remember your dreams, a it's okay. Lots of people don't. But there are things that you can do to help yourself to remember dreams. One of the things that I would encourage is a dream journal and so maybe like a little size notebook that you can keep bedside with a pen and writing at the top of your page Before you go to bed. Thank you for helping me to remember my dreams.

Speaker 1:

And upon awakening whether that be 2am or you know, hopefully, hopefully a nice long sleep and you wake up at like 7 in the morning, or something amazing Is that you, before your feet touch the floor, before you reach for a device to check the time or any of those things, that you just sit there for a second and what do you recall? What's coming forward? Is it a color, is it a feeling? Is it, you know, an image of something or another, or maybe even potentially an entire dream? Kind of just plays out a little bit and you remember, and so that's a really good way to start working with that energy and just start tapping into it and remembering as much as you can yeah cool, yeah, awesome, I this is my favorite one, and this is probably the one that most people get almost every single solitary day, whether they're aware of it or not. Trust me, they are happening and this is the gut feelings Mm, hmm, mm, hmm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're going to talk about this one because I get I get gut feelings like more of like a no in my body and it'll come and hit me and I think I would love for you to sift through this one. I'm excited about this one, Michelle, Because I think then my ego comes and tries to make sense of my gut feelings and that's where. I and you and, like you've said, just the feet noticing the feeling is enough, so please elaborate on this one for me.

Speaker 1:

Well, you make such a good point here, Tara, because the with any one of these ones, we could be talking about synchronicities, we could be talking about dreams, gut instincts. The ego is going to chime in next, mm. Hmm, that's always what's going to happen, right? So the instinct is going to come, the desire for common peace is going to come, and then your ego is going to go. But you don't have time, you're too busy, you don't have time for that. You're going to get a gut feeling of, um, gee, I don't think that that particular food is good for me. And then the ego's. The ego's going to say well, that's just stupid.

Speaker 1:

Like every doctor you come across says this is really good for you to put in your body, like, yeah, that's how it's going to work. The instinct, the, the intuitive hit is going to come gently and sweetly, and then the ego is going to chime in with its opinion also yes, and it's getting in the habit of going thank you and away. You go and sit over in your corner.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Because how many people can resonate with the feeling of uh, somebody asks something of you or they invite you to something. And you can feel in your body? Oh, no, no no either you don't want to, or it doesn't work or what, for whatever reason, you can feel that feeling in your body and then your ego goes be nice, yeah, or you should, yeah, or well, you can, well, you can, and all these reasons that are counterintuitive. That's right To the message of the body.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly, and and I think that we just have a harder time listening yeah, or we're so used to that, that ego track of that, people pleasing, like, like the nice thing, you should show up, you should do that, you should do that, yeah. So I think that that's one of our huge messages of this episode, too is listening to that, yeah, and then having those boundaries around that and honoring your body and, for me, knowing, trusting my body without having to intellectualize it, that's right.

Speaker 2:

Right, without having to make sense of it, cause that's where I can get my ego. I'm like oh yeah, yeah, no, that's not, that's not weird, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That message is not making me feel good, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, but it is what comes after the intuitive, that's right.

Speaker 1:

That's right. And your gut feeling is like, just as you said, an immediate physical response that you feel when presented with a choice, a situation or circumstance. And so, like, say, somebody says to you, um, hey, can, uh, do you want to go for dinner on Friday night? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now maybe your gut instinct is, yes, I do, that sounds amazing, I absolutely want to do that. And you're a meat.

Speaker 1:

Before you even speak the words, inside of you, in your body, is going, yes, please, okay, that's an instinct that you know, that it's resonating with you and that it's good. Okay. So, say, you're presented with the exact same question, but your inner response is, oh, my fucking God, no, that is your instinct, saying, for whatever reason, absolutely not. And what you do with that? I mean you can do either one of two things. I mean, even when you get the good feel, you can be like oh, but I don't have enough money or I don't do that, right, I don't have time, or you know, I don't know why should you know?

Speaker 1:

you know, should I do a girl's night or should I? You know, like? Your ego will still chime in either way. I just need you to know that that your ego is going to chime in with some info as well and give it's you know two cents yeah give it's opinion, whether you ask for it or not.

Speaker 1:

And then if you, if you were to presented with that situation and everything inside of you just is like a wretch of no, then the ego will still chime in with well, that's not, you're not being a very nice friend, or you're not a you know like you could be a better person or you could use push through. You could, you should just push through. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2:

So it is going to chime in either way, but so that's good to know, though that gives people that, that grace and that ease and that compassion for themselves. That because I said to you before we started recording this that I owe this feeling in my stomach and it was just so validating to hear you go that you don't even. It's not that Michelle Morrison, the psychic medium, who's so intuitive, knows every detail of that feeling. You say sometimes the feeling is just enough, and I thought the feeling is enough. I love that, like it was just permission to just that. That is intuition.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That you don't need to compare it to like oh, like how other people's intuition shows up, Like it is our bodies. We have to listen to. And that talks to us differently. So I just love that piece and I wanted to bring it back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's bring it back to that, because I think that this is something that happens in our everyday life. So you were presented with a situation, an invitation to join something, and inside of your body you're just like nope. And then you went through the whole rigour-moral of having to deal with what your ego said about that or even, potentially, what other people will have to say about it.

Speaker 1:

And you're like no, what I've come to is no. And then your question to me is well, why am I a no? And I'm like, who fucking cares, right, why, why does it matter that you're a no Like? Why do you need to know anymore Like? You're a no and you're like well, okay, but you wanted to know all the implications.

Speaker 2:

My ego wants to know why so often your ego wants to know why your ego wants to know, have it all figured out, and.

Speaker 1:

But spirit doesn't work that way. Spirit is not like long winded spirit would never do a podcast this long Like they show up, they're just blunt to the point. But, gentle, they're not. They're not discourteous, they're not disrespectful. Yeah, it's just to the point, is just like nope, that's not for you, and that's all you need to know.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think, keeping that compassion to like thank you for that, Michelle and I'm seeing those tracks in the snow again, Like if I veer off of my track and do things differently and say no, where I usually would have said yes, there's going to be discomfort in that, there's going to be fear in going down this fresh powder like maybe, like I'm doing it differently, Of course my ego is going to be screaming and making a big yeah.

Speaker 1:

What's wrong with you, tara?

Speaker 2:

you're doing it differently. This is going to have backlash, so knowing that when we do it differently and start listening to our intuition, that ego might even flare up a bit and really try to keep you safe, because you're doing it different and new.

Speaker 1:

But follow that body yes exactly Exactly, and so you have. I would love for you to speak to this, because this one is really mind blowing, and I think it's so important to remember is that the gut is often associated with uncertainty, where the brain deals with logic, and so if you have a feeling in your gut that's often associated with, like you know, woo, woo, uncertainty, whereas if somebody proves to you that you should do this, then that's logically what you should do, even if it doesn't feel right. But we have more nerve endings in our gut than anywhere else in our body, and I'd love to hear your take on that Like tell us about the nerves and the tummy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's our second brain.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, there's so much wisdom in our gut and I it would be arrogant of me to even speak to it, because it is a wisdom that I think is grander and broader and more complicated than our human brain could ever think it to be. So to me it's this ecosystem where we dance with our inside world, dances with the outside world through this gut center, and I just am always in awe, and then also not, when I hear of the newer science, like I love seeing all the information on the gut coming out. Like you think that you know, you think happiness is in the brain, you think serotonin goes up and it makes us happy, and if we've got a deficiency of happiness we can go and take an SSRI and a pharmaceutical that'll block the re uptake of serotonin. So then we are going to then have more serotonin in the brain and be happier. And we think this is all a brain thing, but really most of our serotonin is made in the gut.

Speaker 2:

So if we have, unhealthy, unhappy guts, our brain is not going to be happy and healthy. So there's just. To me it's the hugest display of interconnectedness within our gut, and the intelligence hiding in there that we take for granted or we don't really know of is beyond anything I could even speak to, I believe it's magical in there.

Speaker 1:

So when you got posed with the question of the invitation that you were posed with and you had the immediate gut reaction like it was, you felt it immediately in your gut.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it goes more whole body for me, I think, but it's centered there centered in your gut, but whole body feeling. It's like my whole body almost leans back like oh, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, mm, hmm, mm, hmm, and so that's the thing that's really important to pay attention to, that's the thing to tune into by a long shot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's so interesting too because I think that this is a center in myself that I'm reconnecting to more. It's not the way that my intuition usually chats to me or historically has. This is a newer intuitive center for me, probably as I heal my body and return back to myself more.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm coming back to that center. It's also tender. It is tender, my intuition would show up lots of numbers, music, or I hear things like I'll hear words or little, or get these little downloads of these knowings. But really to come back to feeling at home and safe in my own body, Mm, hmm. My body is now speaking more to me at that level.

Speaker 1:

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2:

And I think that we're so disconnected at the gut level, and this is what that gets me so happy.

Speaker 2:

I think that the the connection to our gut health our gut health like yes my head like, and I think that we have such a such a pathology of the guts, like we have so much, whether it be through the food that we eat, the stress that we are under, the constant disconnect from ourselves, the trauma that disconnects us from ourself, the shit that we're spraying on food that is wrecking our tight junctions in our gut and opening and making us more porous.

Speaker 2:

We're like losing that boundary between what is me and what is the outside world and it gets so mucky. So I do want to say, for anyone thinking tuning into the gut, I do think that there's this huge disconnect at this level. So this may not be your strongest intuitive center if we've got inflammation and dysbiosis and this disharmony within our body in this center. So I will send a toot toot to natural pathic medicine here, because natural pathic medicine is so amazing at gut health and I don't think that our medical system recognizes the magic and the everything here. Like unless you're going to your medical doctor with a full blown disease, like we're either crazy diarrhea, crazy constipation, a bit of both, or maybe we have rectal bleeding. Like it has to be very extreme for this to get attended to in the medical system. I think natural pathic doctors really see this as a center of health and we can optimize it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah like it doesn't have to be a disease for us to improve our gut health, and I think as we improve our gut health, we're going to improve our connection.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely there? I think that there's. No, I don't think that it's a very far stretch to see that there are many people in our population, myself included, who is, you know, tending to gut health Absolutely, and how there has been such a disconnect, for whatever reasons like the reasons vary, but I think that one of the messages that you can take if you are working on your gut health is paying attention to those gut instincts.

Speaker 1:

Coming back to that coming back to that place of you know, just taking the time to ask the questions. What is my body saying to me? Where am I feeling it? Why am I feeling that? What do I need? You know, what do I just know, without having to ask what do I need? To acknowledge that I haven't taken the time to acknowledge today.

Speaker 1:

You know just being really curious with yourself and asking those questions. Your body is so intelligent and so incredibly wise and it's constantly partnering with you for your success. It's not trying to work against you, it's just trying to get your attention. It just wants to be loved and to be in partnership with you. And so when we love it back and we are caring for ourselves in a little bit more of a mindful way, I think that those connections really increase and our intuition just gets better and sharper.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, and I think of like we come back to the nervous system and I love the interconnectedness of the body, like I do break it down into systems just to make sense of how systems run, but we can never overlook the interconnectedness, like you are, it's always mind, body and spirit and it all interacts and it all connects. But let's go back to, like, nervous system and you think, if we are in a state of fight or flight and we did a whole episode on nervous system- so people can go back.

Speaker 2:

If they really want me to break it down a bit more and listen to that one. If we are in this, being chased by a tiger, here she's coming to visit again. If we're being chased by a tiger, our body is so smart and our body is always looking to repair and heal, so it's always working for us. Like you say, our nervous system. If it is in this fight or flight, it's so brilliant to save our lives. It is going to shunt all that blood away from your organs out to your extremities so that you can run for your frickin life. So now think, if you are, picture me in my house, in my kitchen, in my laundry, right, that feeling that we're listening to the ego, we're not doing enough, we're hustling. That is a form of this fight or flight.

Speaker 2:

My system's jazzed up. I'm not. I don't have that energy in my guts. Because, my nervous system is so brilliantly shunting it out so that I can be running around like a crazy doing all these jobs. If I can switch that nervous system back to that parasympathetic, to that rest and digest to the I am safe.

Speaker 2:

I am enough all these things. My body is so smart. My nervous system's going to nourish my organs. It's going to bring the energy in for digestion. So just think if we are never feeling in a safe space, like we're not going to hear our gut instincts. No, that's so true, because our physiology is like nope, we're not paying attention to that right now. You got to run from the tiger.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, and can't you see how we do this so much in our world? Yes, I do, yeah exactly, yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah. So this is your permission to rest and digest and ground and get quiet and be still and tune in. That it actually will be more productive if you can just listen to what your body is saying, what your intuition is saying, what your soul is saying, because it wants your success.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that. The body is always working for us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So ego or intuition, tara, where are you going to go today? Both, both. Oh, that's so cute. I'm going to go for intuition.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to go for intuition over ego today, but I feel like I've got mail, so I probably will carve out some silent time today to receive that.

Speaker 1:

I love that. You and me both Thank you so much for being with us today. We are just so incredibly grateful that you are here with us, paying attention to the whispers of your soul, the synchronicities that are happening around you, the times when you crave peace and quiet, tuning into your dreams and, especially, those amazing gut instincts. What is your body saying to you, what is your soul speaking? We want to invite you to love yourself enough to tune in and to slow down and to just pay attention. Before we take a breath of peace, we would love it if you would just click those three dots and share this episode with a friend. We are really growing this amazing community and we are just so grateful to each and every one of you. Thank you so much for being with us today. Let's take a moment for a breath of peace, if you're able, close your eyes and let's begin by taking a nice deep breath, in pulling breath and air way down deep into your core and then releasing that breath long and slow, just bringing your awareness into your amazing and intuitive body. And if you can find within you a place of center, just continue breathing into that center. And as you breathe into that center. What you'll find is that groundedness and that peace begins to grow within you. It begins to circulate all through your being, and so let that energy circulate all around you. Now, taking your left hand and placing it on your heart chakra, in the center of your chest, what is one thing that you are in need of right now? What is one way that your body is speaking to you in this moment? This is something that your soul wants you to know, and so, trusting those first instincts and trusting the instincts of what is coming forward, and just allowing that to be, without judgment, without wishing it away, just accepting what comes forward, you are profoundly intuitive. You, in your physical being, you are absolutely wise. You can trust yourself, you can trust your feelings and you can trust that they are speaking to you in a way that will move you forward in success. As you move forward today, continue paying attention to your instincts, to those synchronicities, to what is happening around you, and honoring how you feel about all of it. Until next time, only love and light to you and only love and light from you.

Speaker 1:

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